November 23
2004
100,000 didn't die
» Posted on November 23, 2004 10:24 PM » Category: Iraq

I have long dismissed the Lancet's claims to being a sensible and independent policy journal. In my professional field - health policy - the Lancet is little more than a hard left political propaganda sheet. (I am working a longish article on the deeply political agendas of the Lancet and, to a lesser but nonetheless significant extent, the BMJ.)

So I was deeeply suspicious of its claims that 100,000 Iraqis died during the war, a figure which has now attained the status of fact.

This piece, however, rips the analytical foundations of the figure apart, and shows that it is, indeed, baseless.

(via Melanie Phillips.)


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*But what evidence we have tells us these pre-war death rates were actually much higher. Dated United Nations figures suggest the overall death rate was well over seven in every 1000 – or close to, if not higher than, the present rate of 7.9 in every 1000 that the Lancet survey suggests. But even more persuasive are 2002 figures from UNICEF, which in a much bigger survey of 24,000 households found the infant mortality rate in Iraq before the war was actually a tragic 108 deaths per 1000 infants.*

Whether we accept the Lancet figure of 100,000 or not (I do not, by the way) this piece hardly 'rips the analytical foundations' of the claim when its author produces a range almost as wide as the originators of the Lancet piece itself. 7.9 deaths per 1000 or 108 deaths per thousand ?
The words pot, kettle and black come to mind.

Stated by: mike on November 24, 2004 12:42 PM

Bolt does not know what he is talking about. I discuss his column here.

Stated by: Tim Lambert on November 24, 2004 1:33 PM

mike I think the 7.9 deaths per 1000 is referring to the population as a whole, the 108 per thousand to infants. Perhaps you should read it again?

Stated by: alex on November 24, 2004 2:21 PM

Yes you are correct Alex. My mistake ! 8(

Stated by: mike on November 24, 2004 8:09 PM

The trouble is, these figures are now taken as gospel truth by nearly everyone in the media, particularly the BBC (no suprise there.)

Just watch Question Time. You are guaranteed at least one person per week will end a sentence with "...and as a result 100,000 Iraqis are dead!" to rupturous applause.

Stated by: Paul on November 26, 2004 12:01 PM

I hate to intrude on this nice little echo-chamber you've got going here, but have any of you actually bothered to read Tim Lambert's post? I suggest you do, as it quite comprehensively shows that Andrew Bolt's 'critique' of the Lancet study is, er, baseless. Tim concludes:

"Too many war supporters have a desperate need to deny that the Iraq war has had some bad consequences. This desperation means that even clueless critiques, such as Bolt’s will find credulous believers."

To the list of credulous believers we can now add Stephen Pollard, who should be ashamed of himself for so eagerly latching onto anything that confirms his pre-existing 'suspicion' of the Lancet study, no matter how ill-informed and incompetent. If he so eagerly allows political bias to colour his views in his so-called 'professional field', then his credibility on subjects he knows much less about (i.e. everything else) must be heading towards zero. Might I suggest that he actually *read* the Lancet study for himself before dismissing it?

Stated by: Jim on November 27, 2004 12:37 PM

'via Melanie Philips' these words are like a hallmark of error. Wise up.

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