Yes, but you know that's not going to satisfy the groups who say the Jooos did it. I particularly liked the scare quotes being turned on the mainstream press! Geddin!

Oh well if Michael Ledeen says it in the Corner, it must be true. Case closed...

Bottom line - this whole thing may not turn out to be a hill of beans or it could turn into a right s***storm. I personally think it is unwise to dismiss it. Unless you actually want to make the case that the Israelis don't spy on the USA, which would be a rather naive position to take.

I also think it's unwise to try to turn this into an anti-semitism issue. It isn't - although I imagine some anti-semitic people will get a kick out of it. But then, what don't they get a kick out of?

Frankly I think people are being far too pre-emptively defensive and you risk ending up with egg on your face if it does turn out to be true. People spy on people. It's the way of the world. This time round the Israelis may have got caught with their pants down and one of their agents may do prison time; something over which I shall lose no sleep whatsoever. That's life.

"I also think it's unwise to try to turn this into an anti-semitism issue"

It is the gentile and not the Jew who turns events into anti-Semitic issues. For illumination on this issue, try yesterday's posts at normblog:

http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/

I think Ledeen is going to be talking to James Jesus Angleton later today to sort things out.

The only problem I have with that is that Angleton is dead, and has been for a number of years. I suspect, however, that Angleton is going to come down on the side of Ledeen, nevertheless.

As for the normblog, there were anti-Semitic attacks on Jews in France ( overwhelmingly, other surveys show - of course - by Muslims, but Norm is PC, or slippery enough, to ignore this) and Holly's point is, I think, that this proves that there should be no investigation into the supposed Israeli spies because them damned Christian gentiles are all anti-Semitic anyway. Right?

No, we should investigate these spies. This is a very serious issue.

Faster,please.

In Flanders we say: “much bleating, but no wool”.

I think Norm has always been upfront about it - he was one of the prime movers in drawing attention to the suppressed EU report on anti-semitism if memory serves.

Michael 'Benito' Ledeen ought to know about subversion and distortion, he's been at it for at least 25 years:

http://www.counterpunch.org/green02282004.html

http://www.antiwar.com/gancarski/gan082903.html
http://www.antiwar.com/gancarski/gan091203.html

Even so, it's ridiculous to equate neocons with Zionists. I mean, you only have to peruse the Weekly Standard, National Review or Commentary to see how many neocons regularly offer hard-hitting criticisms of Israel, Sharon etc, together with calls for America to be more even-handed in ME matters.

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